Whittle-Qwen-3.8-35B-A3B — GGUF
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Ready-to-run llama.cpp quantisations of logic65/Whittle-Qwen-3.8-35B-A3B: a 35.1 B-total, ~3 B-active mixture-of-experts in the
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (qwen4_exp) format with a 10 B-parameter n-gram memory that is load-bearing (the body measurably needs it; see the base card).
Distilled from Qwen3.8-27B at the logit level on 25k verified teacher traces; built on Whittle-Next-27B-A3B. Runs on stock llama.cpp, no patches. The full card, measurements and caveats
are on the base repo; this repo is the download.
Status
Current. These files are the Phase-2 step 32010 root (p2-s32010, 30 Sep 2026) of the current Whittle flagship: the complete Phase-2 distillation from Qwen3.8-27B (every usable teacher row seen once), a memory
phase, and a 410-step fix for the llama.cpp web page's browser tools. The previous (p2-s6000) ladder was replaced in place; the earlier full weights stay under bf16-s6000/, bf16-agentfix2/, bf16-lw5/,
bf16-lw2/ and bf16-tbl1/ on the base repo.
Which file
The memory is ~10.5 GB of each file at Q8 (proportionally less at lower bits). It is a lookup, one row per token per head, so keep it in system
RAM with -ot per_layer_token_embd=CPU — the GPU then holds a 27 B-class footprint and generation runs at 3 B-active speed.
| file | size | notes |
|---|---|---|
Whittle-Qwen-3.8-35B-A3B-Q8_0.gguf | 37.8 GB | reference quant. The base card's numbers were measured on a Colab conversion of the same checkpoint; this file (converted on our 3× RTX 3060 box) was spot-checked against them: web-page chat replay 19/20 and 16/20, 0 invented tools, bug-report JSON 12/12 (the base card's grader) |
Whittle-Qwen-3.8-35B-A3B-Q6_K.gguf | 29.3 GB | near-lossless |
Whittle-Qwen-3.8-35B-A3B-Q5_K_M.gguf | 25.1 GB | recommended for one 24 GB card with the memory in RAM |
Whittle-Qwen-3.8-35B-A3B-Q4_K_M.gguf | 21.3 GB | good default for 16–20 GB cards, memory in RAM |
Whittle-Qwen-3.8-35B-A3B-Q3_K_M.gguf | 16.7 GB | smallest; expect some loss on maths |
K-quants were requantised from the Q8_0. Every file carries the updated chat template, which accepts a system message anywhere in the conversation, so Claude Code works (it sends its environment block after the user turn).
Serve the table whole: the body depends on the memory (see the base card); a build that drops or re-hashes
per_layer_token_embd behaves like the v4.4 parent minus its knowledge.
Measured (summary; the full tables are on the base card)
Served as the Q8_0 it scores 23/24 on the stop/loop battery, 43/50 on unseen GSM8K, 46/60 on our MATH probe, 72/72 exact on a strict-JSON hold-out and 96/96 on our tool-use probes, and it finishes 31/36 held-out chats on the llama.cpp web page with its browser tools on (the step before the fix: 15/36); see the base card.
Run it
llama-server -m Whittle-Qwen-3.8-35B-A3B-Q5_K_M.gguf -ngl 99 -c 16384 --jinja -fa on -ot per_layer_token_embd=CPU
- sampler:
temperature 0.7, top_p 0.8, top_k 20, repeat_penalty 1.05— sample, do not decode greedily; greedy decoding loops on this family. - thinking:
"chat_template_kwargs": {"enable_thinking": true}— it does its best work with thinking on (distilled on complete thinking traces). It thinks longer than earlier checkpoints: give itmax_tokens4096+ for code and 8192+ for maths.--reasoning-format deepseekseparates the thinking intoreasoning_content. - To also move the routed experts to RAM on small cards:
-ot "per_layer_token_embd=CPU" -ot "\.ffn_(up|down|gate)_exps\.=CPU". - On llama.cpp builds that have
--lazy-mode(newer than ~30 Aug 2026), add--lazy-mode offso the memory table is loaded into RAM; otherwise it is read lazily from disk and-otis ignored, which makes prompt processing slow. - Tool use / agents: keep each assistant turn's
reasoning_contentin the history for the rest of the tool episode. - Architecture
qwen4exp; if your build reports an unknown architecture, update llama.cpp.
Provenance
David Aylward (logic65) & Claude (Anthropic). Parent: logic65/Whittle-Next-27B-A3B. Teacher: Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B. Memory contents: Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next. All Apache-2.0.